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2004-10-02 09:13:04 UTC
I saw that there was several posts on the debates and the election when I
downloaded my e-mail. I decided not to read them yet until I posted what
I have been seeing this past few years concerning the Presidency, the
state of the 'church', Israel, and the direction of world affairs at this
time.
I have heard others say (and seen e-mails) that Bush is 'Gods' man of
this time. And that they discerned this of the spirit.
I have also seen the same as above concerning Kerry. How do we as a
people set apart unto YHWH, who indwells us by His Holy Spirit, explain
this?
I consider this election a cross roads for all the nations, as well as
for the 'church'. BOTH directions we can take include shaking of all the
nations. One in one direction, the other in another. Discernment of His
will for this is essential I believe. I TREMBLE when I read that He will
turn one over to himself because of that ones heart and wonder if perhaps
our carnal understanding and desires do not most often keep us from
seeing just what IS His true will for the times and seasons we are in.
I consider Bush the man of the hour. Others consider Kerry. (Yes, I use
their names, we are to be grownups and be able to be completely honest
about all this as One, without strife) But consider this. When I go up to
vote, what am I to do if I discern that the Spirit says vote for Kerry?
And vice verses for those who consider Kerry the man of the hour. Even if
I have been campaigning for Bush? IF I have TRUE discernment there is no
'choice' in my opinion, none but to do as I discern.
Even in this I have a sense of foreboding and trembling. Because the
Spirit will direct according to the will of the Father and just HOW the
shaking will advance. On the one hand we have one candidate who would
turn over the sovereignty of the nation to an Global Counsel so to speak.
On the other hand we have another who is against doing this at all.
To turn our sovereignty over would mean eventual an Islamic overflow in
all the nation I believe, as well as bring us in alignment with the One
World (eventual) government (and religion). In turn which will eventually
turn its back on Israel completely, which history shows is the first step
before persecution comes to the rest of the House of Israel (which
includes the church).
To stand as one nation will eventually bring us to war (quicker at least)
such as this nation has never seen. With possibly only one nation lining
up with us, Israel.
BOTH decisions will bring war and shaking. But just how this comes about
depends on the choices we make today. And perhaps in this we are given
the choice ourselves. That We as His people are to discern the times and
we, as His people are to KNOW His will as we claim to so much. I mean,
everyone says they KNOW Him don't they?
The whole deal has been a prophetic statement throughout the years
concerning the state of the His people and His direction for them. What
we see in the natural does indeed reflect what is going on in the
heavenlies. I have not heard much spoken on this. Which surprises me, or
maybe I just missed it?
In the days ahead He will separate just Who is His and who is not. He
will deal with the difference between the Holy and the profane, the sheep
vs. the goats, the wheat and the tares.
I believe we all have been seeing this shaking for a number of years.
Many of us have called it this or that, but we have all felt something.
The problem is just as this election, some say the Lord says this, others
that. THIS should shake us NOW. YHWH is not a man that He would lie. But
He has said He would send the prophets to speak to us according to OUR
hearts! Showing that those He speaks as such to are not truly in
agreement with His will. So they are turned over to themselves and their
own decisions...in the least not receiving the fullness of His will for
us as His chosen. At worst, some becoming reprobate and counted among the
wicked. I tremble at this!
I know this is long, For that I apologize. But I cannot possible even
write all I have been seeing and perhaps am not to. But to not speak
would be a sin I believe.
We as His people HAVE TO come into the oneness Y'shua spoke of, prayed to
be, and said would be. I know this oneness doesn't mean we are not
individuals within the oneness, but that we discern in the spirit truly
according to His will. Step in step, hand in hand as one, in the natural
as well as the spirit. Uncompromising in the faith, faces set like flint
towards the goal, and this for and to His glory, His namesake alone.
I pray I wrote this clearly. If any have any questions or even
corrections, fill free to reply.
Blessings and shalom in Y'shua our Messiah.
Shabbat shalom
laz
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downloaded my e-mail. I decided not to read them yet until I posted what
I have been seeing this past few years concerning the Presidency, the
state of the 'church', Israel, and the direction of world affairs at this
time.
I have heard others say (and seen e-mails) that Bush is 'Gods' man of
this time. And that they discerned this of the spirit.
I have also seen the same as above concerning Kerry. How do we as a
people set apart unto YHWH, who indwells us by His Holy Spirit, explain
this?
I consider this election a cross roads for all the nations, as well as
for the 'church'. BOTH directions we can take include shaking of all the
nations. One in one direction, the other in another. Discernment of His
will for this is essential I believe. I TREMBLE when I read that He will
turn one over to himself because of that ones heart and wonder if perhaps
our carnal understanding and desires do not most often keep us from
seeing just what IS His true will for the times and seasons we are in.
I consider Bush the man of the hour. Others consider Kerry. (Yes, I use
their names, we are to be grownups and be able to be completely honest
about all this as One, without strife) But consider this. When I go up to
vote, what am I to do if I discern that the Spirit says vote for Kerry?
And vice verses for those who consider Kerry the man of the hour. Even if
I have been campaigning for Bush? IF I have TRUE discernment there is no
'choice' in my opinion, none but to do as I discern.
Even in this I have a sense of foreboding and trembling. Because the
Spirit will direct according to the will of the Father and just HOW the
shaking will advance. On the one hand we have one candidate who would
turn over the sovereignty of the nation to an Global Counsel so to speak.
On the other hand we have another who is against doing this at all.
To turn our sovereignty over would mean eventual an Islamic overflow in
all the nation I believe, as well as bring us in alignment with the One
World (eventual) government (and religion). In turn which will eventually
turn its back on Israel completely, which history shows is the first step
before persecution comes to the rest of the House of Israel (which
includes the church).
To stand as one nation will eventually bring us to war (quicker at least)
such as this nation has never seen. With possibly only one nation lining
up with us, Israel.
BOTH decisions will bring war and shaking. But just how this comes about
depends on the choices we make today. And perhaps in this we are given
the choice ourselves. That We as His people are to discern the times and
we, as His people are to KNOW His will as we claim to so much. I mean,
everyone says they KNOW Him don't they?
The whole deal has been a prophetic statement throughout the years
concerning the state of the His people and His direction for them. What
we see in the natural does indeed reflect what is going on in the
heavenlies. I have not heard much spoken on this. Which surprises me, or
maybe I just missed it?
In the days ahead He will separate just Who is His and who is not. He
will deal with the difference between the Holy and the profane, the sheep
vs. the goats, the wheat and the tares.
I believe we all have been seeing this shaking for a number of years.
Many of us have called it this or that, but we have all felt something.
The problem is just as this election, some say the Lord says this, others
that. THIS should shake us NOW. YHWH is not a man that He would lie. But
He has said He would send the prophets to speak to us according to OUR
hearts! Showing that those He speaks as such to are not truly in
agreement with His will. So they are turned over to themselves and their
own decisions...in the least not receiving the fullness of His will for
us as His chosen. At worst, some becoming reprobate and counted among the
wicked. I tremble at this!
I know this is long, For that I apologize. But I cannot possible even
write all I have been seeing and perhaps am not to. But to not speak
would be a sin I believe.
We as His people HAVE TO come into the oneness Y'shua spoke of, prayed to
be, and said would be. I know this oneness doesn't mean we are not
individuals within the oneness, but that we discern in the spirit truly
according to His will. Step in step, hand in hand as one, in the natural
as well as the spirit. Uncompromising in the faith, faces set like flint
towards the goal, and this for and to His glory, His namesake alone.
I pray I wrote this clearly. If any have any questions or even
corrections, fill free to reply.
Blessings and shalom in Y'shua our Messiah.
Shabbat shalom
laz
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